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It has been way too long since that piece of shit gadsby has been mentioned here. SC bit it the day that asshole showed up. What a jerk, living off of others who think there volunteer monies is going to alec…ya right. Just like all the monies for the road, went into his pocket.
Please forgive my inadvertent ? post. As far as “The Journal” goes, to my understanding it has taken months to put together, and still not fully compiled and organized. It is not up to me, nor do I know where it will be first posted.
“The Journal”, is something I await also. I am not part of it, but have friends that are. They are compiling posts and pm’s from present and past (as in deceased) posters on Viva. The entirety of which revolves around the moderator there and his misuse of the board. It is my understanding that these posts and pm’s go back years.
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ranaParticipant
“watching the state of the union last night it came to me just how wrong the gop is on virtually every issue…line by line their fractured party opposes ANYTHING that makes any sense and you don’t even have to listen to their responses to the speech, all you have to do is look at the their faces…geeze old farts including the speaker … they could barely get up the gumption to stand up and applaud the wounded sgt standing next to mrs obama…they know they risk making the president look good and we couldn’t have THAT, could we…..
unbelievable right down the list WRONG on every single issue…
these pos, ted cruz and rand paul are their front runners?? ….holy fucking shittt…lawd heppus….they’re political puto parasites ppp – doing nothing but take advantage of how fractured the republican party is today…smoke and mirrors (lies) has convinced fully half of of the population, thereby obstructing (for now) the progress (eeeek that word!) being achieved, amazing what it hwas done to the gop
did you know that “moderate” is a dirty word now…yeah right along side words like “democracy, equality, healthcare, union, community, compromise….what planet are these extreme conservatives living on? is this strategy sustainable?
presidential candidates? these two freaks? yes because….henceforth any and all “moderate” (half a brain) conservative need not apply, man how i miss the REAL republican party
This reply was modified 1 day ago by rana.”POINT OUT ONE SALIENT PIECE OF INFORMATION IN THE P O S TIRADE. WHY DO YOU BOTHER RANA. DO YOU SERIOUSLY EXPECT ANYONE TO AGREE WITH YOU. OBAMA IS A LOSER, THUS ATTRACTING OTHERS OF LIKE MIND AND LIKE LOSER STATUS….
OK, your less than intelligent post has been on here for 10 hrs. Have you taken the time to reread it. About as senseless as possible. Opposed to Obama equals wrong to you? In lock step with Obama equals stupid to me. You right? Am I right? Who cares? The old “wounded warrior” trick, anything to divert attention away from the dribble known at the state of the union…Responding to you is as pointless as your original post..but then who really cares.
Snippet City, the most intolerant, bottom feeding, people on the face of the earth, left wing, progressive, hypocrites. You are just as dogmatic as those you portray. There are good on both sides, look real hard, you might even find some decent progressives, or maybe not.
rana, there has been no debate between you and me, on this subject, which you originated. Thus, no thrill for you, as no debate originated.
There’s not a bigger thrill, than penning a thread ending comment..lol!!
Where are you Rana? Too busy spewing it on another forum?When the messenger and the message are one and the same, then shooting the messenger is the same as shooting the message.
Equality, opportunity, responsibility, and what you do with these three concepts, do not always end with the same results.
Yes, all men are created equal when it comes to their right to the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. What is done with this right is up to us all.The world according to Stewart and Rana? Snippet video, claiming to credit or discredit, has never been my source for forming conclusions. If it works for you, that gives us all a heads up.
After doing research, I have been advised who rene is and who he is not. So being the gentleman that I am known to be, I offer a sincere and heartfelt apology to rene, for implying that he was George, “the sphincter”.
OK, “with nothing to hide”, what is your name? Mine is Dex or Dexter Farlow, Have been in Tecalai for about 6 months. I was prepping to play on the political blog on viva, when the plug got pulled. Did observe for a while, who were you there?
rana is the sphincter or an advocate. It is my understanding that gadsby/the sphincter, was the reason the political side of vsc closed. If he was being assailed, so was hitler, or any other tyrant, kind of comes with the job description.
Sphincter = George, George = Sphincter, If you can prove you are the sphincter, this board with go off the charts.
Don’t know what you are talking about. Did you sign up for the limited access, or full access and disclosure? Get hold of the Administrator and plead your case. A donation to the site may help. But if you are “the sphincter” I just don’t know.
rana,
Of course not to exclude, if you are not the sphincter, yourself, please let him know zorro, is welcome here.I think the point has been missed by rana, the forum is a success, because the San Carlos sphincter George gadsby has yet to find his way here. Now should he, it would be over the top. What do you think rana?
I believe in the concept of “a safety net”, not an across the board……Handout!
I have no problem with the don’t haves, that can’t, I have a problem with the cans, that won’t!The signup process is, and never was the problem with Obama Care. It is the end result. The stealing from those that have worked, labored and paid their way for years, only to have there efforts rewarded by the stealing and redistributed of their monies, to noncontributory, useless, individuals.
ObamaCare’s Plans Are Worse
How the Affordable Care Act raises prices and limits medical choices.
Nov. 29, 2013 7:05 p.m. ETEven as President Obama reluctantly granted Americans thrown off their health plans quasi-permission to possibly keep them, he called them “the folks who, over time, I think, are going to find that the marketplaces are better.” He means the ObamaCare exchanges that are replacing the private insurance market, adding that “it’s important that we don’t pretend that somehow that’s a place worth going back to.”
U.S. President Barack Obama meets with health insurance chief executives at the White House in Washington November. Reuters
Easy for him to say. The reason this furor will continue even if the website is fixed is that the public is learning that ObamaCare’s insurance costs more in return for worse coverage.
Mr. Obama and his liberal allies call the old plans “substandard,” but he doesn’t mean from the perspective of the consumers who bought them. He means people were free to choose insurance that wasn’t designed to serve his social equity and income redistribution goals. In his view, many people must pay first-class fares for coach seats so others can pay less and receive extra benefits.
Liberals justify these coercive cross-subsidies as necessary to finance coverage for the uninsured and those with pre-existing conditions. But government usually helps the less fortunate honestly by raising taxes to fund programs. In summer 2009, Senate Democrats put out such a bill, and the $1.6 trillion sticker shock led them to hide the transfers by forcing people to buy overpriced products.
This political mugging is especially unfair to the people whose plans on the current individual market are being taken away. The majority of these consumers are self-employed or small-business owners. They’re middle class, rarely affluent. They took responsibility for their care without government aid, and unlike people in the job-based system, they paid with after-tax dollars.
Now they’re being punished for the crime of not subsidizing ObamaCare, even though the individual market was never as dysfunctional or high cost as liberals claim. In 2012, average U.S. individual premiums were $190, ranging from a low of $123 in North Dakota to a high of $385 in Massachusetts. Average premiums for family plans fell that year by 0.5% to $412.
Those numbers come from the 13,000 different policies from 180 insurers sold on eHealthInsurance.com, the online shopping brokerage that works. (Technological wonders never cease.) Individuals can make the trade-offs between costs and benefits for themselves. This wide variety is proof that humans don’t all want or need the same thing. If they did, there would be no need for a market and government could satisfy everybody.
That is precisely what the Obama health planners believe they can do. Regulators mandated a very rich level of “essential” health benefits that all plans in the individual market must cover, regardless of cost. This year eHealth EHTH +0.29% reported that its data show individual premiums must be 47% higher than the old average to fund the new categories in the individual market.
Meanwhile, ObamaCare’s plans are limited to essentially four. Yes, four. The law converts insurance products on the ObamaCare exchanges into interchangeable commodities that finance the same standard benefit at the same average expense over four tiers known as bronze, silver, gold and platinum.
So, for example, a bronze plan covers 60% of health-care expenses and the beneficiary pays a lower premium to pick up the remaining 40% out of pocket. Platinum carries a higher premium for a 90%-10% split. But there can be little deviation from the formulas—that is, there is little room for innovation or policy choice—to suit customer preferences.
In any case all four tiers are scrap-metal grade, because the rules ObamaCare imposes to create a supposedly superior insurance product are resulting in an objectively inferior medical product. The new mandates and rules raise costs, so insurers must compensate by offering narrow and less costly networks of doctors, hospitals and other providers in their ObamaCare products. Insurers thus restrict care and patient choice of physicians in exchange for discounted reimbursement rates, much as Medicaid does.
Nearly half of the ObamaCare plans are tightly managed HMOs, according to a McKinsey & Co. analysis. In states like California, Missouri and New Hampshire, many networks are 40% or 45% the size of those offered for normal commercial coverage. Patients face the prospect of waiting months and driving miles to clinics and county hospitals.
Narrow networks can be a useful cost-control tool, to the extent people choose to give up medical options in return for lower premiums. But that’s rarely what people want when they’re choosing with their own money. Some 82.5% of eHealth customers in 2012 purchased preferred provider organization plans (PPOs) that are structured so patients can visit virtually any physician.
The awful irony of this new ObamaCare health system is that all adults now enjoy mandated pediatric vision benefits, even if they don’t have kids, but parents can’t take their daughter to an expensive children’s hospital if she gets really sick. Everybody gets “free” preventive checkups with no copays, but not treatment for a complex illness from specialists at an academic medical center.
If the old individual market was as bad as Mr. Obama said it was, then he shouldn’t pretend it’s a place worth going back to, even for a year’s delay. His “fix” is necessary politically because ObamaCare’s willful destruction of this alternative is the worst act of government mayhem since FDR’s National Recovery Act. The Affordable Care Act’s main achievement is turning out to be diminishing affordable care.
Just more proof of one sided fueds that remain the major characteristic of Gadsby. He epitomizes the adage, if you are not with me, I am your enemy. This power hungry newbie has migrated here running away from a less than stellar past.
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jitoma:
Vince and Viva don’t mix well. He has made it quite clear on his board and I will confirm it here.
